[VIDEO] Facing Rape Charge, Lusty Gym Teacher Accused of ‘Doing the Secret Handshake’ with Second Male Student
Posted: June 5, 2014 Filed under: Crime & Corruption, Education, U.S. News | Tags: High school, Human sexual activity, Joy Morsi, Morsi, Physical education, Queens, Rape 12 CommentsA 38-year-old (some reports say 39) gym teacher is accused of rape after allegedly having sex with a 16-year-old boy in the closet of her Queens high school, authorities say.
The teacher, Joy Morsi, was charged with third-degree rape and a third-degree criminal sexual act in connection with the alleged abuse, police say.
[Also see Wanna Wrassle? Queens Gym Teacher Joy Morsi Raped 16-Year-Old Wrestler in School…]
According to the criminal complaint, Morsi had sexual contact with the boy as many as 30 times over a six-week period last summer.
[Teacher Allegedly Rapes Student, Then Gets Jealous of His Prom Date]
Police say Morsi was arrested after the boy told a friend, and that friend told a parent, who alerted school officials. Authorities say the 16-year-old student also has a sexually explicit video that is being investigated.
Specializing in Physical Education. Grover Cleveland School PE teacher Joy Morsi (middle, all in black) is lead out of Kew Gardens Courthouse by her lawyer Virginia Lopreto (suit, black top) and Bail Bonds woman Michelle Esquenazi (red designed top) after being arraigned for having sex with a student.
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My heart aches for the poor teenage lad who had to endure having sex with an attractive older woman. And obviously, the proper response to getting in a tiff with the woman who let you bang her is to utterly destroy her life. I hope the teenage “victim” will fully recover from his “terrible” ordeal.
In other words, laws regarding sex between adults and minors really should only apply to males. Females needn’t obey laws, really, they should be free to pursue sex with minors, any time. Even if they’re in positions of authority and trust, like teachers. It’s cool, as long as the minor enjoys it, or isn’t harmed. Men should be arrested, thrown in jail. But women, heck, they should celebrated for screwing underage male or female students. It’s special and different when women violate laws, they get a pass. But — only if they’re attractive.
Maybe only unattractive women are governed by laws? Attractive women can obey some laws, not others. Or are free to obey no laws, based on their physical status. But then there should be a ratings system, so we’d know which women obey laws and which don’t. Based on how they look, or how much they weigh.
What about attractive males?
Some students might be harmed by a sexual relationship with their teacher. Some might not. The variables involved are so complex that common sense dictates such a thing be prohibited.
That being said, if you win the adolescent fantasy jackpot and get the chance to sleep with your teacher, maybe the best way to say ‘thank you’ would be to keep your mouth shut and not get your lover arrested.
“Some students might be harmed by a sexual relationship with their teacher. Some might not. The variables involved are so complex that common sense dictates such a thing be prohibited.”
This is true of any law. If a legal system has any chance of being legitimate, it must be applied equally, not arbitrarily, inconsistently, or capriciously, or influenced by fantasies, or wishful thinking.
I’m perfectly okay with teen whistleblowers calling out teachers for criminal behavior, and could care less about the nuances, complexities, or shadings.
Many parents and taxpayers, who pay salaries and benefits to teachers and guardians who are unqualified, criminal, incompetent, horny, or emotionally unstable, I’m sure, would agree.
Women are often given special exceptions because adult males– not adolescents–fetishize the “fantasy jackpot” scenario, and are happy to look the other way when women engage in sex with minors. And instead, advise them to just be cool about it, and keep their mouth shut. Wink wink. Because of how “lucky” they are.
But the same males would indulge vigilante fantasies and violently assault or murder a MALE teacher for screwing their daughter (or son) which pretty much illustrates why laws have to be applied equally, or people will make up all kinds of special rules and exceptions, based on their own fantasies.
Even if 17 is close to the age of consent, and it seems unfair for a teacher to face criminal charges, I doubt you’d give the same advice to a teen male student, if his “lover” happens to be an adult male public school teacher. If a 39 year old male teacher was having an ‘affair’ with a 16 or 17-year-old boy, would you advise him to just ‘be cool’ about it, and not get his “lover” arrested? Because he hit the adolescent young gay male fantasy jackpot? Or if a 45-year-old woman was the “lover” of her 16-year-old girl student? Did she hit the gay teen “fantasy jackpot’?
It’s a potent issue, partly because it’s novel — we usually associate rape (sex with minors) with males, not females. But mostly because it involves an adult in a special position of trust, authority, and obligation. Public school teachers. The latent “hot for teacher” taboo fantasy tends to cloud our thinking (by our, I mean only males–women don’t fetishize adult female/young male sexual relationships, and more harshly judge other women in unique positions of authority who do violate minors.
Back in the day when the justice system was an exclusively male domain, male cops and judges who harbored their own adolescent ‘hot for teacher’ fantasies were happy to look the other way. Women teachers were rarely arrested for sex with minors. And even then, it was only unattractive women who would ever get arrested. Male cops and judges often declined to apply the law equally.
But now that women are represented in law enforcement, and the judiciary, more women teachers are suddenly expected to obey the law, too. And for the first time, women teachers actually get arrested, and have their reputations ruined, when they violate laws regarding sex with minors, too.
Equality!
At least it might serve as a deterrent. High-profile arrests get the attention of other teachers, and women teachers realize that — just like men — their careers and reputations can be destroyed when they choose to have sex with minors.
But so far, it appears to have escaped the notice of some women high school teachers. There are new arrests practically every month. Good grief! Don’t they watch the news?
“If a legal system has any chance of being legitimate, it must be applied equally, not arbitrarily, inconsistently, or capriciously, or influenced by fantasies, or wishful thinking.”
Any chance you could chat up President Obama and convince him of this?
“I’m perfectly okay with teen whistleblowers calling out teachers for criminal behavior, and could care less about the nuances, complexities, or shadings.”
Personally I’d prefer a teen speak out because they’ve legitimately been victimized rather than, say, because they’ve used a woman up and are now ready to throw her away because she’s inconvenient. Or maybe just for the “lulz”.
“Many parents and taxpayers, who pay salaries and benefits to teachers and guardians who are unqualified, criminal, incompetent, horny, or emotionally unstable, I’m sure, would agree.”
I’d hope so.
“But the same males would indulge vigilante fantasies and violently assault or murder a MALE teacher for screwing their daughter (or son) which pretty much illustrates why laws have to be applied equally, or people will make up all kinds of special rules and exceptions, based on their own fantasies”
Yep.
“I doubt you’d give the same advice to a teen male student, if his “lover” happens to be an adult male public school teacher. If a 39 year old male teacher was having an ‘affair’ with a 16 or 17-year-old boy, would you advise him to just ‘be cool’ about it, and not get his “lover” arrested? Because he hit the adolescent young gay male fantasy jackpot? Or if a 45-year-old woman was the “lover” of her 16-year-old girl student? Did she hit the gay teen “fantasy jackpot’?”
If a teenager asked my advice about an affair they were having with their teacher, regardless of gender or sexual orientation, I’d tell them it was a bad idea for both them and their teacher. If they indicated that they had been pressured or forced in to the relationship I’d advise them to contact the police. Because that’s what I’d have to say, as I lack a degree in psychology and a full eval of both the teenager and the teacher. I’d have no idea what the relationships was like, so I’d have to give the safe, responsible answer.
“It’s a potent issue, partly because it’s novel — we usually associate rape (sex with minors) with males, not females.”
Not being a lawyer, I’m free to narrowly recognize rape as forcible/coercive sexual contact.
“At least it might serve as a deterrent. High-profile arrests get the attention of other teachers, and women teachers realize that — just like men — their careers and reputations can be destroyed when they choose to have sex with minors.”
“But so far, it appears to have escaped the notice of some women high school teachers. There are new arrests practically every month. Good grief! Don’t they watch the news?”
I find the frequency of these occurances surprising myself. You’d think if anyone would know how teenage boys behave, it would be a teacher! The need to boast and brag, especially about a sexual conquest. The lack of maturity. The especially fragile teenage male ego. For a teacher to get involved with a teenager, especially a boy, is like playing Russian roulette — except all but one of the chambers is loaded. Absolutely nuts. Which goes to show that the women who choose to engage in these affiars are probably not all there.
“Not being a lawyer, I’m free to narrowly recognize rape as forcible/coercive sexual contact.”
We’re all free to our own opinions, and narrow points of view, but I think its validity here is limited to adults and crimes involving other adults. It’s a common misunderstanding. The legal definition of rape is tied to the ability of one party’s ability to give consent. A minor simply doesn’t have the legal status to give “consent”, any sex between an adult and a minor is a criminal act.
In other words, rape is not exclusively about coercion, or violence, or force. It’s also about consent.
Minors enjoy fewer privileges in society, but they are afforded special protections. They are temporarily free of consequences for their decisions or impulses. Adults are not.
Understandable that you may be uncomfortable with it being called ‘rape” (because to you, it implies coercion, or force) This is unfortunately an example of why most males (not females) think these things should be considered on a “case by case” basis. Depending on how attractive the teacher is. Or how “mature” the minor “seems” to be. And any number of special considerations that make exceptions to the laws. To some degree, judges factor in considerations based on these things, which is why sentencing for these crimes are variable.
“If a teenager asked my advice about an affair they were having with their teacher, regardless of gender or sexual orientation, I’d tell them it was a bad idea for both them and their teacher”
Note: if it’s their teacher, it’s not an “affair”. I hope you’re not serious.
But then they should only contact authorities if they feel “victimized”, if they don’t, maybe it’s okay.
Really?
It’s interesting to note that the risk for the minor are WAY, WAY different than the risks for the adult.
There are no legal consequences for the minor. Zero.
Consequences for the adult: Arrest, Jail, financially and socially destroyed.
If it’s Russian Roulette, the chamber is blank for the student.
I question the “boys need to boast and brag” and the ‘teen male ego”, it’s a stereotype, not a reality. Plenty of boys, to the contrary, feel isolated and have zero urge to brag about an illegal sexual relationship. Girl students may be more inclined to leak to her friends, or share the info with someone, being more socially geared to share intimate details with their peers.
I don’t disagree with all of your impressions. We probably agree that the urge to cross taboo lines is universal, the impulses may be improper (or incredibly dangerous) but they are human.
It’s the adult that actually ACTS on these impulses that society has to guard against. Female teachers, as well as males.
And I agree, it is a sign of mental or emotional problems, when an adult is insane enough to act on the impulse, and cross the line. Particularly an adult in a position of authority. A priest, a coach, a teacher. These people should be forbidden to hold positions of authority over minors. Poor judgement, lack of impulse control, makes them a danger to the young people they’re entrusted with.
In a perverse way, I’m happy to see women teachers enjoying the same privileges and consequences as the rest of the adult population. They get to enjoy the same level of prosecution and punishment and hardship as their male peers.
Unmentioned so far are teachers (or adults in general) who are FALSELY accused of rape. Countless men are rotting in jails because a student lied, claimed sexual events that NEVER HAPPENED.
One wonders if women teachers will get to experience this kind of injustice, too, just like their male peers.
Minors ARE dangerous, in more ways than one!
Partly because some adults think sexual contact between adults and minors isn’t a crime, it’s an “affair”.
Roman Polanski probably thought so.
(note: the girl bragged about it to a girlfriend, who then reported it to her mom, who told the girl’s mom, who reported it to the police)
It’s also worth noting that fewer and fewer males go into teaching at the elementary and high school level, partly because of this asymmetrical risk. Men are viewed as criminals and potential rapists, just by virtue of their gender, they’re believed to be guilty, the presumption of innocence is less than for women. Leaving the teaching profession in public schools to be dominated by women, who don’t have the same degree of scrutiny, and distrust. Many potential male teachers might ask: Why bother? The rewards are too low, and the risks are too high.
Which unfortunately denies students the benefits of having more good male teachers in the classroom.
It’s likely that sex between women adults and male (or female) minors hasn’t increased, it’s always been like this. It’s only recently that adult women are violators exposed and treated to the same justice system males have been. Which makes it SEEM like it’s happening more often.
Or, the other possibility. Students are just more attractive than they used to be! And women just can’t resist them.
It’s all about impulse control. Thinking about doing something taboo and illegal is different than acting on those thoughts.
Maybe there’s an increase in mental illness, or emotionally unstable adults in teaching professions? I blame the unions, and the near-total monopoly of the public education system, for protecting teachers instead of protecting students.
“The legal definition of rape is tied to the ability of one party’s ability to give consent.”
Yep. The age varies by state.
“Minors enjoy fewer privileges in society, but they are afforded special protections. They are temporarily free of consequences for their decisions or impulses.”
Unless they commit a serious crime. Then they’re charged as adults anyway.
“Note: if it’s their teacher, it’s not an “affair”. I hope you’re not serious. ”
If I ever meet the producers of ‘Dawson’s Creek’ I’ll make sure to note your objection to the term.
“But then they should only contact authorities if they feel “victimized”, if they don’t, maybe it’s okay. Really?”
“… if they don’t maybe it’s okay” are your words, not mine.
“Maybe there’s an increase in mental illness, or emotionally unstable adults in teaching professions?”
I suspect that the reasons for the behavior vary by age. A new 20 something teacher probably has different reasons than a late 30s, early 40s teacher. Reasons probably vary by gender as well.
So in conclusion: If you’re a teacher, don’t mess around with your students. If you’re a student, and your teacher comes on to you, The Butcher says to call the cops. And all I’ll say is, if you choose to get sexually involved with anyone — treat them with respect.
If you haven’t seen it yet, you might enjoy this parody, inspired by events like these, from a few months ago.
Exclusive: Controversial Female Teachers’ Group Dedicated to “Woman-Boy Love” Pledges Legal Support to Meredith Powell
https://punditfromanotherplanet.com/2014/04/01/out-of-the-shadows-organization-of-female-teachers-dedicated-to-woman-boy-love-pledge-legal-support-to-meredith-powell/
Enjoy!
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This practice is fast becoming popular across the nation. So many women going after the young men and getting jail time for it. With instantaneous media coverage the news travels fast. I wonder if it was as prevalent back in my days in the 1960’s? What would I have given at that time to be properly initiated by one of my pretty teachers, for whom I harbored strong feelings. Would have kept my mouth shut, too. I wonder if these young men are really traumatized by the experience or are taking revenge for some other reasons?
Those are typical personal reactions from sentimental males, but are completely beside the point.
The larger issue is, do we hold everyone to the same standard? Are men criminals when they do it (lose their jobs, reputations, go to jail for it, and listed forever as sex offenders) but when women teachers do it, it’s kinda sexy and cute, so it’s okay?
I doubt parents of minors agree. Sex between an adult and a minor is a crime, and is particularly criminal when one is in a position of power over the other, like a teacher, or coach, or police official, or security guard, or priest. Adults with minors is illegal, regarding of gender. Often it’s adult males abusing underage males, or even adult women abusing underage girls. In or out of classroom, the law applies equally. Otherwise, it’s not really much of a law.
I’m not sure your personal fantasy is worth having men imprisoned for crimes, while women can commit the same crimes, but they get a pass, because you have fantasies. Equality under the law. Got it?