[VIDEO] Jonah Goldberg Drops the F-Bomb: ‘Whiff of Fascism’ to Obama Questioning Companies’ ‘Economic Patriotism’

I had this on in the background when Charles Krauthammer and Jonah Goldberg were discussing this, and Jonah’s invocation of the F-word made me stop what I was doing and pay attention. Jonah’s scholarship on the history of fascism–history of political ideologies in general–makes his comments more interesting and relevant. It’s not a word he’d use casually. It’s an unsettling, and I think, accurate observation.

National Review Online


6 Comments on “[VIDEO] Jonah Goldberg Drops the F-Bomb: ‘Whiff of Fascism’ to Obama Questioning Companies’ ‘Economic Patriotism’”

  1. […] By Pundit from another Planet I had this on in the background when Charles Krauthammer and Jonah Goldberg were discussing this, and Jonah’s invocation of the F-word made me stop what I was doing and pay attention. Jonah’s scholarship on the history of fascism–history of political ideologies in general–makes his comments more relevant than you might think. It’s not […] Like this? Read more and get your own subscription at […]

  2. Paul H Lemmen says:

    Reblogged this on Conservative Christian Man.

  3. Mike says:

    A Whiff?! A WHIFF!? Holy Cr*p! The smell is so thick you can Taste It! In Fact I believe a cogent argument could be made that we has become a Fully Fascist Country by definition. The Government ‘owns’ the private sector through the regulation of the EPA and OSHA primarily. The money supply is wholly owned by the Government who prints it at will with no consideration to the damage done to those who earn and save it. A Whiff? Hmmm…. Jonah is right, but it amounts to staring into the Grand Canyon from the South Rim and declaring there may be a slight impediment to heading North.

  4. The Butcher says:

    Perhaps, but a commonly agreed-on and understood definition of ‘Fascism’ is notoriously elusive. Big-F Fascism and little-f fascism, for example… But it’s not about state ownership and control. (see other ideologies) It’s more like ‘Government as Religion’.

    (though I don’t claim to have the expertise or qualifications to elaborate, just making some comments, and drawing from a summary definition offered in the forward to Goldberg’s book)

    Western intellectuals were enamored, celebrating the Italian experiment in Fascism. The charm of Benito Mussolini, early in his political career, is all but forgotten (early Benito advocates include some NYT writers, policy makers, and a few elected officials) but Fascism wasn’t a bad word back then, it was an appealing ideology, in theory, with many advocates in other parts of the western world.

    U.S. history has periods of soft (and not-so-soft) Fascism. Obama doesn’t have the popular support (that his early political rise suggested) to pull it off. The cult-like worship that boosted his sweep into the presidency faded quickly. But even with his diminished status as a popular leader, his troubling autocratic tendencies –The rule of man, not Law — make him, and people like him, a danger in a constitutional republic. I think Obama is a symptom of a deeper problem.

    The word ‘Fascism’ has been thrown at the Right Wing by reckless and uninformed protestors for as long as we can remember. Part of what Jonah’s book addresses is this historical misunderstanding, demonstrating, chapter after entertaining chapter, that Fascism is more closely linked with The Left, and always has been.

    • Mike says:

      To understand Fascism you must first understand the basic premises or Ideologies. Fascism is indeed found on the ‘right side’ of the spectrum. However it is a spectrum made up entirely of Statist/Socialist Ideology. We have wandered so far away from Enlightenment Governing Ideology, that theory of Freedom and Liberty of the Individual protected by a Constitutionally Limited Government and a Free Market, that Fascism can be applied in many respects to many Republicans as well as every Democrat. Regarding your point of ‘Government as Religion’ I would have to ask you what the difference is between that idea and what the Left practices today? Anyway, Goldberg makes the point that Fascism differs for Socialism only in it’s ‘allowing’ the private ownership of industry… that is the private ownership of industry so long as the owner does what the party (Government) tell them they must. Otherwise they would be replaced, forcefully through legal means or otherwise. That’s it. In the end it is a distinction without a difference in terms of Statist Governing Theory.
      Whatever the ‘commonly agreed on definition is’ irrelevant. Frankly most of the ‘differences’ have been fabricated by Leftist Professors and ‘thinkers’ in order to create separation between their brilliant ideas and those of the Nazi’s.
      And without becoming even more boring than I already am, I am qualified to (according to certain institutes of higher education… which when typing this out loud causes me to immediately question my own credentials…) make such a clarification.
      The only reason I reply here is that you employ the past tense when commenting on the love affair associated with Fascism. I would offer that there is a big sloppy wet kiss being given to such Governing Theory right now, right in front of us. We simply need to recognize it for what it is.
      The Left would love to maintain the separation from their ‘enlightened’ ideas and the ‘horrible’ ideas of the Fascists… but again… it’s only a distinction sans difference as Jonah points out well.
      Liberal Fascism reside on my top 12 recommended reads.
      Cheers – Mike
      Love your site BTW

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